HSUS trash talk? Bring it on!

I should have known better.

Did I really think the Humane Society of the United States would leave Ohio farmers alone after voters spoke soundly at the polls in favor of a livestock care standards board? Did I really think Wayne Pacelle, HSUS CEO, would admit defeat and simply turn his attention and money to a weaker farm state?

No, I guess not, and so, ready or not, here they come.

The Humane Society of the United States, I remind you, is NOT affiliated with local or county humane societies that shelter unwanted pets, or promote spay and neuter programs. It has a stated goal, one of its Three Rs, of “replacing meat and other animal-based foods in the diet with plant-based foods.” In other words, the “humane” in HSUS means the activists believe there is no “humane” treatment of meat-producing animals. Period.

Unhappy with the outcome of Ohio’s Issue 2, HSUS’ Pacelle has declared the group will wage its own ballot initiative in the Buckeye State, saying the livestock care standards board was “cooked up” to block real reform (meaning the HSUS’ definition of reform).

He said details are forthcoming, and called on Ohioans to help gather the 400,000 valid signatures required to get the issue back on the ballot. And he’ll probably want your money, too, saying “we’ll need a major effort to reach voters in Ohio with our message of sound science and basic values.”

Like the old song goes, “People get ready.”

Get ready for lots of TV ads that show images of abused farm animals as if it was a common scene on your farm.

Get ready for celebrities to lend their voices to the HSUS cause here in Ohio. (Some of us are old enough to remember Meryl Streep and Alar in 1989, or Oprah and her beef brouhaha in 1996.)

Get ready for a targeted message to urban residents, who are likely to know the least about today’s agriculture and livestock production.

Get ready to hear the phrase “factory farm” leveled at your family farm.

Patti Strand, director of the National Animal Interest Alliance, calls it “Defamation for Dollars,” and says HSUS is not above deceiving the public into voting away the welfare of animals.

HSUS is saying “forget the board consensus, we know what’s best for Ohio consumers and farmers.” If you believe that, I’ve got some ocean-front property in Columbiana County, Ohio, I’d like you to see.

If you were part of the silent majority who quietly supported Issue 2, you’re going to have to stretch your comfort zone and share your story. Practice explaining why you do what you do in 60 second or less — your own mini sound-bite, if you will. Think about how your story would sound to someone who knows nothing about farming.

The next 12 months will be critical for Ohio agriculture. We need to get the legislation for the new board; we need to seat the new board, and the new board needs to kick it into gear with meaningful dialogue with all sides.

We also need to get ready for the coming HSUS battle. Their war chest is deep and their p.r. machine is slick. Issue 2 was a cake walk compared to what’s coming.

Bring it on.

By Susan Crowell

About the Author

Farm and Dairy Editor Susan Crowell has been with the paper since 1985, serving as its editor since 1989. Raised on a farm in Holmes County, she is a graduate of Kent State University. You can follow her on Twitter at http://twitter.com/scrowell and follow Farm and Dairy at http://twitter.com/farmanddairy. You can also find her on Google+ and Facebook. More Stories by Susan Crowell

26 Comments

  1. Jarrod says:

    Susan you are right on target. The Ohioians will have to let their government officials know also, as we all know Wayne has many friends in Washington who still believe his conglomerate is an animal welfare organization. As it turns out the latest HSUS propaganda regarding the cow farm and the new video, mmmmm…..seems the person accused was given suggestions of what to do by the man behind the camera! No excuse but that is the way HSUS works. 400,000 signatures will probably be no problem in Ohio because each one of their unpaid foot sholdiers will probably sign 50 times each. I would think the Attorney General may like to have a look inside of HSUS and their many companies that fall under HSUS. It is amazing at what a conglomerate they have built from donations from people thinking they were somehow saving animals. Not to mention property left to them in people’s wills. Keep up the fight Ohio, importing meat from a third world country does not sound very safe to me…..but that will last until HSUS proposes a bill to stop that!
    Beware of someone looking for a job that has a fondness of wearing camera sunglasses. HSUS plays dirty.

  2. Anne says:

    Paranoia runs deep among those who exploit and abuse sentient beings, as well it should. Evolve already, please!

  3. James says:

    Apparently, the way the democratic process is set up in the United States is not god enough for HSUS or their legions of “veg-heads”. The legislature, thereby the people who elected them, have spoken. Who does HSUS and Wayne Pacelle think they are? They are merely a money making business, wrapping themselves in the language of animal welfare while pushing their own special interest agenda. People and elected officials of Ohio, wake up!!

  4. Quincy says:

    Wait, wait, wait! Why is there going to be a battle?

    Weren’t we all told that by passing Issue 2 that we won’t have to worry about a fight? “Pass Issue 2 to protect us from HSUS!”

    Unfortunately, that is not the case. Ohio has voted away the farmer’s freedom. Issue 2, while not protecting protecting us from the animal activists, puts major agricultural decisions into the hands of bureaucrats.

    HSUS put only lip service to opposing Issue 2 (how many “non-hand painted” opposition signs did you see?). I hate to see what will happen when they start using their full resources to accomplish their goals.

  5. JB says:

    There is an amazing parallel between animal rights organizations (such as HSUS, PETA, and all their other little offshoots)and our present federal administration. They are not who they say they are, and even their own people are unaware of underlying, subversive goals; blindly executing the bidding of their leader.
    THE PERCEPTION IS NOT THE REALITY.
    They are the biggest scam artists on earth, bent on taking away your money, your rights and your liberty.

    I find it interesting that this very Farm and Dairy online magazine shows the “Animal Cruelty Commercial” on this page, and asks for help in Saving Animals Now. RIGHT; donations do NOT go to save animals. And, Farm and Dairy should not be accepting ads from these terrorists.

  6. Gael says:

    Paranoia? How about the truth! HSUS does so little for those sentient beings you claim to care so much about. How about using those millions they fraudulently obtain by deceptive advertising to actually DO something to help animals? How about the HSUS focusing more on helping animals than whoring for the media? The people who are actually doing something to help animals are those in the trenches, caring for these animals on a day to day basis and NOT just when the TV cameras are rolling.

  7. Nick says:

    Great article Susan! If the public cannot wake up and see their choices being taken away from them they will in the next year.

  8. Maxine says:

    Hsus is not only against farm animals for meat and ownership of horses etc. They are also behind the legislation of pet ownership. They are not for the humane treatment of animals really they would rather there be no animals to deal with. A farmer would have no need for cows if they are not for milk or meat production. They would make expensive and useless pets. They would have no purpose. My husband always loves selling a calf to market. He says “well, that makes room for one more.”

  9. Thanks, JB, for bringing the ad to our attention. F&D doesn’t control the Google ads placed on our Web site, but we had previously blocked HSUS ads from Google, so we’ll have to look into it.

  10. alice in LALA Land says:

    Great to see that this article is on the money… HSUS is NOT the farmers friend… or the consumers.. want to show everyone what you think about the HSUS.. go to ebay and look up HSUS Deception for Dollars.. tee shirts… very stylish…
    PS i have no finacial interest.. but I love my shirt….the next time Wayne is in Ohio.. make sure he is picketed…. get the press out there… and let the public know..
    Friends Don’t Let Friends Donate to the HSUS..
    cut off the MONEY and you have won

  11. Dr. Rosset says:

    Anne’s response is typical coming from someone who assumes that because you eat meat or own a pet you are an abuser. These people want to deny their biology of being an omnivore and care even less about your rights. The lion does not consider anything other than its own needs when killing a gazelle. As human beings we require the nutrients found in meat and others nutrietents we don’t even know about. We are seeing profound and irreparable damage to the internal organs of long term strict vegan dieters. Pregnant women and children should not eat a strict vegan diet as it will cause brain damage and severe problems later in life. Also 1 out of every five adults cannot get protein from plant material. A vegan diet is not good for most people. Moderation is the key to health, but so are the nutrients found in meat. To garner support for their views on animals vegan and animal rights zealots keep pushing the notion that livestock contribute to global warming. They lie about the EPA studies. Methane gas is only 7.9% of all green house gases. Livestock contribute only 17% of this 7.9% total contribution to green house gases. However, soy bean production, rice paddies, wetlands and tropical rainforrests contribute nearly 50% of all methane production. Focusing on methane gas which is only 7.9% of all green house gases takes the focus away from fossel fuels. Soy bean production in Brazil is growing mile after mile with slash and burn farming methods. This bean has to be transported around the world and processed. The carbon footprint of the foreign soybean is far greater than all of the livestock being raised. Misleading the public on health issues is of far more concern and should be considered a terrorist act. HSUS put out that the virus H1N1 came from pork which was a lie completely disputed by CDC. This was done to hurt pork farming and put people off eating meat. These lies are intended to hurt not only farming, but our national food supply. Anne tells us to evolve already not realizing that biology has evolved this collaboration between species to ensure the survival of both species. We have spent years and millions of dollars trying to prevent the tiger from becoming extinct, whereas, once we made the buffalo part of our food chain its survival as a species became assured. This concept of sentient beings is not part of the biology of animals. They eat other animals as do we so the argument that as human beings we should not eat meat is anti human. It is also anti animal as those species will die off or starve to death. Anne represents extreme and faulty thinking similar to those who blindly followed Jim Jones to their deaths. Yes, she can go several years eating vegan before her internal organs begin suffer if she is extremely careful to include the necessary amino acids found only in meat. But she must realize that she is still eating meat when she pops those pills. To condem society for eating meat is to condem all sentient beings on this earth who eat another sentient being. It is the natural way that mother earth has balanced out the species for the survival of all species. Our duty is to keep our food supply safe and to use humane methods in processing our food as much as possible. However, our first duty as a species is to our own survival and we cannot go against our own biological needs and survive as a species. We have developed symbiotic relationships with other species for research purposes that benefit us as well as them. To not do such research again would be against our own best interests, as well as, those of other species who benefit from this research. Anne uses the word exploit which actually means turn to practical account and that is what our nation’s farmers do when raising the food we eat. We should be thankful that they do as it is not an easy job to keep billions of people fed around the world. But farmers do not exploit their animals, what they do is care for them until they serve the higher purpose of feeding humans as ordained not only by God, but by mother nature herself or just biology if you will. When a human being evolves fully that does not need all the nutrients found in meat only then can we carry out such evolution. However, for as many years as vegan diets have been tauted we still do not see any wide spread change in the developmental needs of the human body. Omnivore means you need some of both not just one or the other. As cults go this one is sneaky as it plays upon our misplaced human emotions for pets which we have come to look upon as family and not animal. Remember the first thing a cult does is to control what you eat and to limit your food intake and especially your protein as that is what the brains needs to function effectively and sanely.

  12. Mary says:

    Excellent information, Dr. Rosset. I have been following the HSUS for years, since they are such a threat to our rights and abilities to keep our dogs. It is unbelievable that this organization has bamboozles so many people into donating to an organization that is not about helping animals, but about aboloshing them! They don’t give a damn about animals or humans. They just want to make more money, buy more lobbyists. It’s all about power and money, nothing else! Pacelle is a hypocrite, pretending he loves our pets but having never owned one he has no clue what it is like to have one. I read an article about how his wife has a cat, and he likes it, but she has to come remove him. What???? Wake up before it is too late. We must keep them out of Ohio unless you want to eat tofu for the rest of your life! They have no right to tell us we can’t eat meat and must be vegans. America is about choice! Let’s keep it that way.

  13. sam says:

    The HSUS is a emotion based fanatic group, they try to get laws passed in states with voter initiatives so they can snowball people who are unfamiliar with farming. What they want to do in Ohio will force the production of eggs, pork and veal to move to another state.These farming operations know how to take care of their animals alot better than the HSUS, if not they would be out of business. Many people in California are losing their jobs and businesses due to the HSUS, all because the HSUS came up with some idea and put it on the ballot.Ohio will not let them do this.

  14. Owner says:

    What needs to be down is to establish the fact that animals ARE private property in court. If this can be established then outsiders and bunny huggers will have no right to tell individuals what to do with with their property. Think tail docking, castaration, spay/nuter all these and many more are choices people make on their own possesions. Establish firm legality that animals are property/possesions and they have no right to stick their nose in it.

  15. David says:

    The HSUS has perpetuated the biggest fraud upon the American people that this nation has ever seen. Most of their yearly budgeted millions of dollars goes towards legislation that fit into two main categories. Those two categories (1) make it more and more expensive to own animals (2) make it more and more difficult to own animals.

    A little research into their practices and in the obvious direction they want to take animal ownership is all that’s needed to see the truth about them. Unfortunately they approach their goals in such a devious way as to gain credibility with all but the most informed on animal welfare vs animal rights. As well, much of their credibility comes from an ignorant press. Now we have a President who apparently also believes the animal rights rhetoric — such as what his Regulatory Czar, Cass Sunstein spouts.

    It all is very frightening and sickening that so many can be deceived.

  16. Lotta chien says:

    http://wcbstv.com/seenat11/soy.cancer.food.2.1307129.html
    the humaniacs want us all to eat soy and other veggie products – maybe because it will kill us off too!

  17. Dorothy C says:

    It is gratifying to see so many posters in the know about HSUS. This group doesn’t run a single animal shelter. It doesn’t support any low cost vet clinics to reach the poor. And it doesn’t provide funds to offer free spay/neuters to people who cannot afford that surgery for their pets. Of the $100 million taken in each year, $96 million is spent on advertising and lobbying and providing big salaries for execs like Wayne Pacelle. He himself stated that their goal was to eliminate all domesticated animals within one human generation. HSUS along with PETA have this as a stated goal. Just read deep enough into their web sites.

    In PETA’s case, they do run a shelter in VA and it kills 97% of the animals turned in. Better dead than a pet, I guess. This number is easy to verify as it is public record in the state of Virginia. And remember the case where PETA people picked up unwanted pets, drove around the corner and killed them, then dumped the bodies into dumpsters behind stores. They were found guilty but of a silly misdemeanor charge. This is also verifiable.

    I wonder if any of their members/supporters of HSUS and PETA got flu shots this year–you know the vaccine grown in chicken eggs. Have all the vegans who have posted heregotten theirs?

    So many people have been and are being deceived by HSUS, believing the lie about caring for animals. There is NOTHING humane in the HSUS.

  18. Nancy says:

    Rather than say anything myself, I would like to just post quotes directly from the mouths of the some main animal rights group’s leaders.
    “Not only are the philosophies of animal rights and animal welfare separated by irreconcilable differences… the enactment of animal welfare measures actually impedes the achievement of animal rights… Welfare reforms, by their very nature, can only serve to retard the pace at which animal rights goals are achieved.” Gary Francione and Tom Regan, “A Movement’s Means Create Its Ends,” The Animals’ Agenda, January/February 1992, pp. 40-42.

    “We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock
    produced through selective breeding …One generation and out. We have no
    problems with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of
    human selective breeding.” Wayne Pacelle CEO of HSUS – Animal People News, May 1993

    “We are going to use the ballot box and the democratic process to stop all hunting in the United States … We will take it species by species until all hunting is stopped in California. Then we will take it state by state. Wayne Pacelle, Senior VP Humane Society of the US (HSUS), formerly of Friends of Animals and Fund for Animals, Full Cry Magazine, October 1, 1990.

    “My goal is the abolition of all animal agriculture.” JP Goodwin, employed at the Humane Society of the US, formerly at Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade, as quoted on AR-Views, an animal rights Internet discussion group in 1996.

    “It’s time for the animal rights movement to take this [fur] industry and drive the final nail into the coffin by whatever means it takes. If that means being outside the executives houses, if that means blockading their doors, whatever it takes.” John ‘J.P.’ Goodwin, Humane Society of the US Campaign Director, former executive director of the Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade, in speech at the World Congress for Animals, June 20, 1996

    Ingrid Newkirk President “Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal
    situation brought about by human manipulation.”
    - Harper’s (August 1, 1988)

    Ingrid Newkirk President “In the end, I think it would be lovely if we stopped this whole
    notion of pets altogether.”
    - Newsday (February 21, 1988)

    Ingrid Newkirk President “There is no hidden agenda. If anybody wonders about — what’s this with all these reforms — you can hear us clearly. Our goal is total
    animal liberation”. – “Animal Rights 2002″ convention (June 30, 2002)

    Ingrid Newkirk PETA President “I openly hope that it [hoof-and-mouth
    disease] comes here. It will bring economic harm only for those who
    profit from giving people heart attacks and giving animals a
    concentration camp-like existence. It would be good for animals, good
    for human health and good for the environment.”
    - ABC News interview (April 2, 2001)

    And the most recent one by a so-called…HUMANE lecturer….

    “Sometimes I think the only effective method of destroying speciesism would be for each uncaring human to be forced to live the life of a cow on a feedlot, or a monkey in a laboratory, or an elephant in the circus, or a bull in a rodeo, or a mink on a fur farm. Then people would be awakened from their soporific states and finally understand the horror that is inflicted on the animal kingdom by the vilest species to ever roam this planet: the human animal! Deep down, I truly hope that oppression, torture and murder return to each uncaring human tenfold! I hope that fathers accidentally shoot their sons on hunting excursions, while carnivores suffer heart attacks that kill them slowly.
    “Every woman ensconced in fur should endure a rape so vicious that it scars them forever. While every man entrenched in fur should suffer an anal raping so horrific that they become disemboweled. Every rodeo cowboy and matador should be gored to death, while circus abusers are trampled by elephants and mauled by tigers. And, lastly, may irony shine its esoteric head in the form of animal researchers catching debilitating diseases and painfully withering away because research dollars that could have been used to treat them was wasted on the barbaric, unscientific practice vivisection.” Gary Yourofsky, PeTA Humane Education Lecturer, quoted in the University of Southern Indiana Student Newspaper, The Shield, January 24, 2008

    And that folks is the people behind the animal rights movement that so many think are asking for donations to help the animals. Do these sound like sane people who want animal welfare? Or do they sound more like people who detest the human race as a whole?

  19. Colleen Michaels says:

    We farmers all know what HSUS and PETA are and their agenda. Owner is correct. Sadly, Farm Bureau and the other groups that hastily put together Issue 2 did not seek any other opinions from ony of their members-many of us wanted to put a “Farmers Rights” Bill on instead of a Bill that took our rights away. Sadly, that is water- under-the-bridge and now we must still deal with these animal rights terrorists.

    First of all, we need to educate the public on what MOST of you have said above-They need to know HSUS supports terrorism (Wayne Pacelle, the head of HSUS was taped stating this) Hopefully Farm Bureau et.all. will intelligently ask for suggestions this time. Some from me would include:
    1. Band together with ALL states HSUS is/has attacked and take our matter to the US Supreme court on grounds of unconstitutionality.
    2. At same time, create Farmers’ Rights Bill on National level.
    3. Also at same time, start planning a future National (International would be best-as they all face similar problems) Food Strike. This may seem extemely radical-but it is no different than the tactics HSUS is doing to us, besides,the mere thought of a food strike may bring people to their senses.
    4. Then start on our state-bombard info. to all people by all media available.
    5. Include various groups as allies such as Hunters, NRA, Unions, ect.

    Unlike Issue 2, all of us farmers should be involved-this will be MAKING SURE our constitutional rights are preserved, no matter what size or type of farm you have(That includes organic and small-such as myself,..remember, HSUS’s goal is to eradicate ALL animal control)
    May God help us all..

  20. mary gibson says:

    What I find so sad is the fact these folks writing these articles have no idea of what has been foisted on the neighbors by owners not living on the farm and taking full advantage of the lack of interest by other so called farmers.

    I am shocked that an editor such as Susan cannot see this and in trying to help the farmers in Ohio would not like to see the changes I have asked for for so many years, ie. a two tier system of animal industry, no zoning abatements and taxed on their sales as any other industry is. It would be a solution but one that Farm Bureau fails to promote. Why is that when many other states such as Wisconsin where I moved from 32 years ago enacted.

    Susan you know better!

  21. Carol says:

    H$U$ is the biggest scam going! Like our present politicians – it’s all about POWER!!! The power to control!!
    As Dr Rosset pointed out – the human brain suffers from lack of meat protein! I actually ran into one of these nuts – she told me she hoped humans went EXTINCT! Now – that’s about as sad a person as you can find!

    H$U$ Lies = Animals DIE!

    YES – H$U$ has an agenda – and it’s for all humans to be permanently separated from the rest of the animal world in every facet and to subsist on vegetable material. Well – as that will use more land area – AND that will raise the global warming – they just might get their wish.

    Protect your children – H$U$ is after them!!!

  22. JB says:

    Carol, the nut you ran into that said she hoped humans would become extinct is actually what is at the bottom of all this! “Animal Rightists” deplore the Human Species and you are absolutely right – their aim is to rid the world of humans.

    Like Dr. Rosset says, the first thing they do is take away our food supply. Isn’t that what they are doing when they attack all forms of animal breeding? Mandatory Spay/Neuter means extinction, and our empty-headed politicians just don’t get it. Nor, do the celebrities and media that just want to feel good by spouting, not having CLUE NUMBER ONE about the true, underlying agenda pointed at the human race.

    Its not the “puppy mills”, its not the “abuse”, its not the “pet overpopulation” – its the HUMAN involvement with those things that they attack.

    Just think of all the industries that are associated with animals, whether it be food/clothing production, pets, service animals, recreation, production of life-saving drugs…….from homes to vehicles, feed, equipment, health care, entertainment, restaurants, hotels – and much more that people spend their “animal” money on. They are hitting ALL walks of human life by sponsoring legislation that begins the attack at the bottom. Very crafty.
    SOMEBODY needs to make Jon Q Public understand that they are donating to a bunch of FRAUDS who not only want to rid the world of all animal use, but their keepers, as well.

  23. Nancy says:

    JB,
    I and many others having been trying to get through to the mainstream media those very points, but in my own experience so far, the AR extremists have them completely bamboozled. here’s a quote from one of my local television anchors when I tried to speak to him about it recently:
    (Speaking of PETA’s mission statement) “I don’t happen to agree with the whole statement, but I think that you can see that their stand is not nearly as extreme as the Ingrid Newkirk quotes you’ve pulled. I have actually met her, and I know the game that she’s playing (again, she’s in the role of extremist, aiming for moderate change). Their REAL goal is to cut down on and eventually eliminate cruelty to animals, so I find it impossible to miss the good in their efforts.”

    How do you get through to the media when this is their belief? Because they believe this way, they continue to encourage the public to believe it also. Most of the media familiar with animal husbandry DOES understand the agenda, but we also need to find a way to get mainstream media, our legislators, and the public to understand it as well, or as Colleen Michaels said above, “God help us all!”

  24. Zeb says:

    Dr Rosset (Dr of what I wonder?): “As human beings we require the nutrients found in meat and others nutrietents we don’t even know about.” With the exception of B-12, there are no nutrients found in meat which cannot be found in a plant-based diet. “nutrients we don’t even know about” isn’t a valid argument, there being no factual basis to believe such nutrients exist.

    “We are seeing profound and irreparable damage to the internal organs of long term strict vegan dieters.” Do you have a study that backs this claim up.

    With regard to methane: “Globally, ruminant livestock produce about 80 million metric tons of methane annually, accounting for about 28% of global methane emissions from human-related activities. An adult cow may be a very small source by itself, emitting only 80-110 kgs of methane, but with about 100 million cattle in the U.S. and 1.2 billion large ruminants in the world, ruminants are one of the largest methane sources. In the U.S., cattle emit about 5.5 million metric tons of methane per year into the atmosphere, accounting for 20% of U.S. methane emissions.” Source: EPA http://www.epa.gov/rlep/faq.html

    “HSUS put out that the virus H1N1 came from pork which was a lie completely disputed by CDC.” From HSUS: “Factory farming and long-distance live animal transport apparently led to the emergence of the ancestors of the current swine flu threat.” The CDC refers to H1N1 as “swine-origin” flu. Here’s a quote from an April 2009 interview with CDC chief virologist Ruben Donis: “Q: Is it of swine origin? R.D.: Definitely.” http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-30-cdc-swine-strain/ HSUS does not claim H1N1 comes from “pork” (i.e. the meat on your plate).

    “Yes, she [Anne, previous poster] can go several years eating vegan before her internal organs begin suffer if she is extremely careful to include the necessary amino acids found only in meat.” There are no amino acids found “only” in meat. I’ve been a vegan for over six years now, & my internal organs are doing just fine, thanks.

    “To condem society for eating meat is to condem all sentient beings on this earth who eat another sentient being. It is the natural way that mother earth has balanced out the species for the survival of all species.” This might make some sense if we lived as other animals live. But do you seriously ask me to believe that factory farms are the “natural way” of “mother earth”?

    “Anne uses the word exploit which actually means turn to practical account and that is what our nation’s farmers do when raising the food we eat.” Exploit also means “to make use of meanly or unfairly for one’s own advantage” (Mirriam-Webster’s) which many contend is what farmer’s do when raising animals for slaughter.

    “When a human being evolves fully that does not need all the nutrients found in meat only then can we carry out such evolution.” This goes directly to Anne’s point when she says “Evolve already, please!” For humans as a species are well able to find all necessary nutrients (again, B-12 being the exception) through a plant-based diet. The species has already evolved; it remains only for individual members of our species to catch on to that.

    “Omnivore means you need some of both not just one or the other.” Omnivore means you are capable of eating both plants and animals – not that you are required to.

    “Remember the first thing a cult does is to control what you eat and to limit your food intake and especially your protein as that is what the brains needs to function effectively and sanely.” The first thing a cult does is control your intake of protein? Huh? I realize you’re trying to connect brain malfunction to veganism, & connect both to HSUS via cults, but frankly, this argument is bizarre. Maybe it’s all that meat you’re eating – or rather, the brainwashing you’ve apparently been subject to (by agribusiness primarily) with regards the necessity of eating meat.

    Note: Nearly every statement made in your post could be successfully argued against. I just pulled out a few of the more obvious blunders . . .

  25. sarah says:

    The American Humane Association, a highly respected national animal welfare organization,
    endorsed Issue 2 and issued an excellent press release praising its passage. Maybe American Humane could play a backround role in the development/review of humane farming practices in Ohio – not serving on the board, but in an unpaid, consulting capacity. At the very least, it would enrage Pacelle and company, who have worked hard over the years to undermine the work and fundraising of its rivals, especially American Humane, the ASPCA and Best Friends Animal Society.

  26. pat s. says:

    I hate the USHS!!!! These selfish ******** need to mind there own buisness!!!

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